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datsa
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You've just gone through the drive-through window at your favorite coffee shop, and with java in hand, you set out on your commute.  Only, your All-Trac is a stick, and you need both hands to drive it; so what to do with your coffee?  As you all have probably noticed, many if not all Corolla All-Trac wagons don't come with cup holders -- at least mine did not.  But  if you have been inside any non-All-Trac Corolla, you may have noticed that these cars do come with cup holders, located just below the cigarette lighter/front ashtray that is at the front of where the center console meets the dash, just in front of the shifter.

Well, your All-Trac wagon has the same radio/cigarette lighter/ashtray cluster,  -- and  just below it, the same potential space for a cup holder; the mounting bracket is there, there just isn't any cup holder.  You can get a cup holder from either a same-color "regular" Corolla in a junk yard (that's what I did), order one from the dealer, or get one on-line through places like eBay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors.....ssories#ht_500wt_963.

To install: undo the screws on either side of the center instrument cluster, pry up the edge of the bezel with a flatblade screwdriver (cover the end with electrical tape to prevent scratching the plastic of your car), and insert in the cup holder.  You can then put screws into the mounting holes to secure your cup holder.   See the pics below.

Be aware that these cup holders aren't very deep; so I wouldn't put any really tall container/cup/glass in the holder.  Perhaps this was the reason that Toyota decided to not include them in the wagons?  





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time for a trip to the junkyard  

my old prelude didnt have cupholders either.. I'm determined to have them finally.
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I remember being in that scenario several times. Wish I had known about this sooner...

Thanks for the tip!
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SWEET FIX...I just ordered my cupholders...they should be here in about 10 days. We'll see if they work then.
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Couple of questions. Will some parts from a regular corolla be used on our 89 all-trac? Door handles, dash clocks, windows, mudflaps etc? If so what years? Also, was 89 rhe 1st year of the all-trac wagon? Thanks fellas!
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Quoted from silverback
Couple of questions. Will some parts from a regular corolla be used on our 89 all-trac? Door handles, dash clocks, windows, mudflaps etc? If so what years? Also, was 89 rhe 1st year of the all-trac wagon? Thanks fellas!

To answer your question and based on my own experience of owning an All-Trac among a sea of "regular" Corollas, yes, some of the non-All-Trac parts will work on All-Trac Corollas and some will not.  This difference is based both on type of car (All-Trac versus regular Corolla) and on year (88-89, and 90-92).  

What fits and doesn't fit varies but the major factor is [/b]get the part from a regular Corolla of the same year.

In general, most generic small body parts do fit:
side mirrors
door handles
dash clocks
dash pad --not sure about this
console faces
dash switches
steering wheel
seat belts
brake, gas pedals

but
The center console appears to be different: it's shallower in the All-Trac due to the presence of the center diff and propeller shaft.

Most engine parts fit, but only for same model year blocks: 88-89, and 90-92
there are exceptions to this:
Clutch: Because of the 4WD drivetrain, the All-Trac clutch is heavier duty: thicker flywheel, etc. in the All-Trac.
Propeller shaft
Rear differential (but it appears to be similar if not identical to that of the 88 Toyota Tercel)


What doesn't fit:
major body parts (front fenders: notice the difference in the shape of the turn signal lights)
unique body parts (rear hatch, package tray)
door glass for the front doors (different shape A pillar between the models)

How to verify what fits and what doesn't fit
Go to http://www.toyodiy.com and look up your All-Trac or Carib by sales region, model year, and transmission.
On the page with the part, write down or copy the Toyota part #.  Be aware that some part numbers are not correct, and
many part numbers have been superceded by new ones.
Next go to a discount parts website that allows you to enter the manufacturer's part number directly.  One of my favorites is:
http://www.parts.com.  Choose Toyota, and then enter the part number.  Up should come a list of all the cars that Toyota makes
that have that part.  Since All-Tracs and Caribs are rare, you can use the other cars as sources for these parts.






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i got my cupholders in last week.. holy crap best 10 bucks ive spent in a long time. drive thrus are no problem now
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What do you mean by the mounting bracket is there. I felt around under the ashtray and I can't find any mounting holes etc. Or do you mean behind the console. It seems to me that if I wanted to mount anything under there I would have to drill holes for screws. Which I may very well do. I guess I'll just take it apart and look.
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you will definitely see it.. just pull out the bottom part of the center console and you will see one empty hole on each side where each screw goes
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What do you mean by the mounting bracket is there. I felt around under the ashtray and I can't find any mounting holes etc. Or do you mean behind the console. It seems to me that if I wanted to mount anything under there I would have to drill holes for screws. Which I may very well do. I guess I'll just take it apart and look.

You have to remove the bottom end of the center console to get to the mounting bracket.
So does anyone else have mods?  I have many ideas, but I just need the time to do them.
And how do we get more members to this site?



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I have several ideas for new mods; I'm working one now but probably won't post it until a few weeks.
I'm have also been tinkering with some other improvements.  
Does anybody have any air intake mods?  I have a K&N filter in mine, but a stock air intake.


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I thought about doing a cold air intake to mine, but the airbox draws air in from right by the headlight anyway so its probably relatively fresh air anyway.

But I really want the sweet intake sound (as if I could hear it over my rusted out exhaust anyway, lol)
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Any idea how us Aussie cousins can get a hold of these cup holders?


Corolla 4wd??? Does such a thing even exist???![color=green][/color]
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Any idea how us Aussie cousins can get a hold of these cup holders?

Are there any "regular" Corollas in Australia, i.e. the AE92 models?  You want a model that runs the same years as the AE95, i.e. 1988-1992.  Next choose a model that has the same exterior color, since it will most likely have
the same interior color.  The cup holders are located in the dash, just below the radio.  You will have to unscrew the dash, then pry up the edges with a flat blade or screwdriver -- cover the ends with electrical tape to avoid scratching the cup holder.  

to install in your car, just do the same operation.

Or, try eBay.com.au for cup holders or cupholders. You may have to try over a period of days or weeks.  I just tried "cupholders toyota" and got several choices, but none for that would fit.

Or try http://www.1sttoyotaparts.com for cupholders.  I wonder if they will ship to Australia.



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