My wagon comes standard with basic speedo fuel & oil gauge....  Does anyone know if other corolla models have dashboards with tacometers that fit the AE95's all trac's etc.?

I know the AE92 has some similar parts...not sure if it's an exact fit though..

If it is an SR5 it should have a tacho as far as i know, you sure it is an SR5 and not an XL? The auto CSi wagons also have tachos and nicer seats.



are your seats like above or like:



Do you have central locking / power windows?

I do know a guy who tried to swap them over and had endless headaches, not sure if he ever got it working.  Probably a lot easier to install an aftermarket tacho, you can keep them out of the way and get reasonable sized ones (ie not monster).

Quoted from JedzWagn

My SR5 comes standard with basic speedo fuel & oil gauge....  Does anyone know if other corolla models have dashboards with tacometers that fit the AE95's all trac's etc.?

I know the AE92 has some similar parts...not sure if it's an exact fit though..

Mine is also an SR5 and did come with a tachometer.  I don't know about the AE92's but why not check toyodiy.com to see if the same part number corresponds with both.  I was in a junkyard recently and saw both a junkyard All-Trac with the same instrument cluster that I have as well as what appeared to be a similar instrument cluster in an AE92 that was identical to my instrument cluster.  Of course, ours is the reverse of what is found in NZ and Australia.  

Actually ended up in an AE92 the other night & the dash set up is identical from what I can tell.

Funny thing is my car's badged SR5 on the rear window but came with normal wind-up windows & no powers steering (Which I don't mind - more room in the engine bay)

Perhaps some one had a bingle & had to change the tail gate on it - but I've got full service history 7 there's no mention...

I eventually plan on doing the late model 4agze conversion, & a few other pretty major mod's so the car will be off the road for a bit while I get another run about, so I expect I'll have a few head aches here & there, whether it's the dash/taco or something else.

BTW... Saw a late model fwd 4agze package on ebay including supercharger, gearbox wiring loom ECUetc but the guy wants $2,699 for it & isn't allowing any offers or bids - Bit too rich for me..

mine is an SR5 and it has a tach, but no power windows, no power locks and no power mirrors......but i installed one kick a** sony headunit and speakers lol

Quoted from CUCUY

mine is an SR5 and it has a tach, but no power windows, no power locks and no power mirrors......but i installed one kick a** sony headunit and speakers lol

Like yours, mine is all manual (5-speed, manual windows, manual mirrors, manual door locks, manual rear hatch) except for the electric sunroof.  But I am working on some mods to make some of these manual things electric or automatic.  I'll post those mods.

Quick question about the dash OEM tachometer... if I get hold of a 6th gen Corolla cluster with the tacho, will it work in my wagon even though it doesn't have a tacho from the factory?  What I mean is, what will tell the tacho how many RPMs my engine is doing if my wagon didn't roll out of the factory with a tacho?

I hope I'm making sense... I'd like to know what my RPMs are, but don't want to bother with tearing out a 6th gen dash cluster with a tacho if it isn't going to work in my wagon!  Maybe I should just get an aftermarket one?  In which case I don't even know where to start...

I would assume that they should have the same connectors on the differing cluster gauges. It wouldn't make sense for a company to have several wiring harnesses. It's a pain to get to the cluster, but I would say give it a shot. I think all of the SR5 all-tracs have a tach.

Yeah, I'm hoping to get into it this weekend.  Hopefully I'll see whether or not I have the wiring for a tach behind the dash.

Taking a break right now from my wagon diagnostics for lunch.  I need to find out a few things, like why the speedometer jumps (no idea, the speed sensor checked out alright but the needle was warbly as it moved), and why my washer fluid does not squirt for my front windshield, yet it works for the rear wiper.  Also the washer reservoir has a leak, I'd like to find it and patch it up rather than buy a new one.

Anyways about the tach, I pulled my gauge cluster and saw that there is a wire and connector on the harness for what I assume is the tach (going by the manual).  For the cluster with tach, I think the pinout is C6.  On the non-tach cluster, there's nothing there for it to do anything.  So I have a wire that will most likely work the tach when I get myself a gauge cluster with one!  Here's hoping.  I might head to the junkyards tomorrow, so I could have this going before the weekend!  Great Success!

Well I was doing some online browsing of a local wrecker & couldn't believe what I found!

Check it out...

These AE95 sedans are very rare over here... I contemplated buying it.

In the end I scrapped my plans for the day & went down & checked it out.

It's a 4AF carburettor automatic.

It had 174000 on the clock.

I day dreamed further about putting a 4agze into my wagon & putting my 4afe into this little baby & turning it into a weekend rally styled car but I really hate automatics... & began to consider the real logistics involved in working on both cars at once... It's a shame...the body's solid & in good nik.

I don't know what it would take if I wanted to make it a manual transmission..

In the end I managed to salvage a few gems from it. I was keen on the little tinted wind guards on each door but some one had already beat me to it.

I came away with the tacho I've been after & a bonus cup holder part for my centre console.. & a few injectors that aren't quite as old as mine & some lead holders from a couple of AE92's

cup holder

car yard visit

Nice finds there!  That cupholder looks awesome... I wish I could get one like that for my wagon!  I pulled some cupholders
(still for sale if anyone wants them, look in that section of this forum) from some AE92s at the junkyard I went to back in February.
They don't quite work as well as I hoped, and don't fit my water bottles that I use.  But that sedan's cupholders... if anyone finds
a set of those, could you grab them for me?

I'm hoping that I'll find a tacho cluster someday.  I mean they weren't that uncommon...

My friend was telling me one of his relatives had one of those AE95 sedans.  She lived in Canada... so perhaps there are
some LHD models as well as RHD?

Haven't seen any left hand drives..
I'm still thinking of buying that sedan - they're so rare... in a few years it'll be priceless.
I need to do some research on what it would take to convert from auto to manual.
I've been scouring every wreckers in my hometown for a 4agze, I just found an old 1988 MR2 AW11, I emailed the yard to see if it's still got the 4agze...probably have to wait a few days for a reply...
if I can get one soon & also get a manual ae95 gearbox - (I think I know where to a couple of those actually)
I'm thinking I'll buy that sedan, auto transmission should just drop out / bolt in manual & drop in the 4afe with extractors I'm currently running in my wagon

Never seen one of those over here. grey market import! pity about the auto though!

Just put a factory tach from a donor car into my 1991 A-T. Took a couple hours but was a plug and play install. The trick was to disconnect the speedo cable from the coupling in the engine compartment. Once done it enabled me to pull it out far enough to disconnect the other end of the cable from the back of the old assy as well as the 3 electrical connections.
Down side is it's in kilometers. I like to calculate mpg with every fill up. It'll be a minor hassle to do the conversion but worth it now that I have a slick looking factory tach.

I recently found out from someone over at the TN forum that you can use your speedometer / odometer inside a gauge cluster that has a tach.  I guess the internals of the speedo/odo are the same for the non-tach cluster.  In any case, this means getting the factory tach without having to worry about buying an aftermarket & wondering where to mount it, where to run the wires, etc.... and keeping your mileage.  I'll have my new (used) cluster in a few days, and will post pics of it when I'm done.

Apparently you can also swap the front clear plastic piece, which I'm going to have to do because the one that was picked up for me has some issues with that piece.

This is the part behind the speedometer / odometer face that you apparently can swap into the gauge cluster with tach (except here I have taken it apart from when I was cleaning it up a month ago):

I wish I knew about swapping the internals while I had the assy out. I've had my fill of removing and reinstalling the dash panels for now. I never enjoyed jigsaw puzzles much either. The new cluster I purchased has MPH in small numbers along with KPH. I keep a small calculator in the glove box which will help me with the MPG calculations when I fill up. I honestly don't know why they didn't put tachometers in ALL the All-Tracs. My old cluster was very boring comparatively. Dash now looks as it should.
The impetus for the swap was the need to replace my heater fan speed regulator. I bought a used one from Ebay as the original one had only mid and high speeds. Same malfunction on a 1991 Sentra SE-R I had. Appears to get very hot and burns out. The "new" one I installed was suspect as it looked a little toasted. Sure enough it only has mid, med-high and high. And the bulb, which is part of the fan control regulator and also illuminates the heat and fan controls, is out. I was able to slide that portion of the assy out without having to remove all the cables controlling the air flow, temp etc...
Anyone have a part number for the fan speed regulator?

So I've got my cluster with tach from someone at TN... even with swapping the speedometer / odometer innards, I agree that this is a pretty easy car mod!  And so great to finally have a tach.  Below are a bunch of images... you can click on some to enlarge them...







I plan on writing up a how-to article, but it will have to wait until I have the dash / cluster out again in a few days or a week.  I'm getting some LEDs to use in the cluster, something I've thought about doing for a while now.  And it's a good thing too, because the bulb count is different between the two clusters.











And finally...



This is without the clear plastic face, because I still need to make sure I've got my speedometer set properly.  You can see that the speedometer needle is below the 0... partly because I broke a part of my original speedometer, and partly because I needed to reset where it sits.  For added fun, here's a short video of me driving

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOZVnt72coA

Cool mate!

Excellent right up.

I just bought a new dash cluster on ebay.

I had one like yours but found another that spans all the way across the sheilded dash cavity where the clock is above the centre consol, it's coming in the mail but I found a pic online

I'm not exactly sure what each face is for but I'm thinking if there's some spare I could fit superchager boost & pressure guages there - not a huge fan of extra guages added on to the dash or outside the windscreen.

Going from the fuel gauge and working leftwards...  looks like battery voltmeter, then oil pressure... the last one looks blank / missing, or possibly another set of warning lights (like the strips above & below those last few gauges).

I think the blank last one on the left is a clock.

I suppose that could be substituted with an oil temp gauge, lol... though I do have to wonder how much work it would be to add a new gauge into that cluster using the stock openings in the panel.

Yeah left is a clock, but I bet with some custom cutting and gluing an oil temp gauge would be easy enough to fit in there! =)

Spewin' ... That car yard got rid of the AE95 sedan even tho I'd emailed them heaps..

Should just gone down there & spoke to them - hopefully it went to a good place... they're so rare

I found out something really damnable... there are slight differences in the gauge clusters with tachometer: those from a Corolla with the 4A-F engine apparently don't have a check engine light, but those from a Corolla with 4A-FE engine DO have the check engine light.  And guess which one I have... the one without the check engine light!



Also, I should mention... this being how I found out my new gauge cluster doesn't have the check engine light... I've got all LEDs into my cluster!  Another "should have been easy but wasn't" task, because the LED wedge type bulbs are a little wider on the body than the standard bulb replacements would be.  So I had to take all the smaller sockets and Dremel out each one until the LEDs fit properly.  Without doing this, the twist-lock sockets  barely fit into the holes, had to be forced in, and I was afraid of breaking something.

The pic really doesn't do this justice, as the bottom row are red not orange, and the faces & numbers are more evenly lit to the human eye.

I'm glad it went easy for you, Looks like lots of little tiny parts!! Even though the picture doesn't do it justice, I think it looks good in the picture too! =)

How many LEDs did you end up using I'll need a few extra than you, so I'll probably just buy double and hope that works?  Are they all the same wedge bulbs, some of the sockets look larger? I plan on replacing all of mine when I take my dash apart to do the stereo, but ... this time I want to take the dash apart only ONCE. hahah

Thanks!

There are four of the larger wedge type (original bulb type 158 ), and ten of the smaller wedge type (original bulb type 74).  SuperBrightLEDs has various replacements for those types... I recommend the "high power" type for the three main 158 bulbs that light up the gauges.  I went with regular LEDs for the indicators, and they're plenty bright (especially the turn signals).  I color coordinated the LEDs for the indicators like the site recommends (a red filter should have a red LED behind it, green filter with green LED, etc).

Good work!

Hey thanks for the link! This answers all my questions, and it is very similar tyo the Tercel except mayching the parts is easier! Same deal with the speedo disconnect at the tranny! Took me an hour in the yard to figure that one out!

I believe there is one more direct swap you can do for these year Corollas... the windshield wiper delay on the steering column has an adjustable delay on some models.  From what I've read, you simply plug & play the "better" delay (adjustable time for delay), no need for another relay.  I'm not sure which Corollas had that feature, or how easy it is to do.  Something I'm considering next time I go to the junkyard (probably need a steering wheel puller).

Yes you will definitely need a steering wheel puller! Funny ours already has the wiper delay thingie? Nothing else but it does have that, and well AC.

No power windows or door locks and having all those doors and windows to lock and unlock is a PIA but oh well.

Quoted from chip18

Yes you will definitely need a steering wheel puller! Funny ours already has the wiper delay thingie? Nothing else but it does have that, and well AC.

No power windows or door locks and having all those doors and windows to lock and unlock is a PIA but oh well.

I stand corrected. We don't have the wiper delay thing! I saw it on the All Trac I pulled the dash from. It had cruise control and the wiper delay on the stalk!

My wiper has a delay, but it's a set increment of time.  More like a lower-than-low-speed.  There are three speeds total: delay, slow, and fast.  From what I understand, the higher model Corollas (All-Trac and FWD) had that wiper delay with the adjustable time increment.  I could be wrong, though.

That's another thing in case you didn't already know, you can swap *some* stuff over from the 88-92 regular, FWD Corollas (sedans, wagons).  Mostly interior stuff like sunvisors, gauge cluster, armrest/door pull, steering wheel, etc.

Yeah mine is as you described. The one in the 92 had a bunch of hash marks around it's circumference but it also had cruise control built into. Which would be cool but more than I wanna try and do right now.

Quoted from JedzWagn

Cool mate!

Excellent right up.

I just bought a new dash cluster on ebay.

I had one like yours but found another that spans all the way across the sheilded dash cavity where the clock is above the centre consol, it's coming in the mail but I found a pic online

I think these were for the Carib Sprinter Japanese models.

Quoted from chip18

Yeah mine is as you described. The one in the 92 had a bunch of hash marks around it's circumference but it also had cruise control built into. Which would be cool but more than I wanna try and do right now.

Did you pull the cruise control? I'm slowly assembling the parts to retrofit my A-T with cruise control.  Don't forget the cruise control computer in the passenger footwell.

I've considered putting cruise control into my wagon.  I'd so much rather have it than not.  Just wondering how much room it takes up in the engine bay, and how much of a nightmare it might be to wire up.

You would need the CC module under the hood and all associated connectors / tubes / etc, CC computer, and CC switch, correct?

I'll take my camera to the yard tomorrow and get a picture of the engine bay. I did not notice it, so it must fit pretty well.

Quoted from Rogue

I've considered putting cruise control into my wagon.  I'd so much rather have it than not.  Just wondering how much room it takes up in the engine bay, and how much of a nightmare it might be to wire up.

You would need the CC module under the hood and all associated connectors / tubes / etc, CC computer, and CC switch, correct?

There is also a CC module in the passenger footwell (that bump near the lower door jamb).
In the engine bay, the  cruise control apparatus sits in those empty spots just in front of and in back of the passenger side strut tower.  A hose goes from that all the way across the intake manifold where it enters the firewall.

I came across an AE92 with a full cruise control and matching interior dash; I wanted to pull it then, but the junkyard was closing, and I did not have time.  When I returned the next time the yard was opened, the entire car was gone.   Missed opportunity. Oh well, I can live without CC for now even as I slowly gather the CC parts.